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June2023
InsurancePractice
Modernizingthemindset:AninterviewwithBiswaMisra
Totransformacentury-oldcompany,BiswaMisrahelpedAIAGroupweavetechnologyintoitsbusinessstrategyandtapintotheconsumermentality.
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2Modernizingthemindset:AninterviewwithBiswaMisra
Challengingtheperceptionthatinsuranceis
alow-techindustry,AIAGrouphasupdatedits
offeringsandprocessestobecomemoreaccessible
tomillionsofcustomersinAsia.Inthisepisode
oftheMcKinseyonInsurancepodcast,Biswa
Misra,thegroupchieftechnologyofficerandlife
operationsofficeratAIA,spoketoMcKinseysenior
partnerAnandSwaminathanabouthowhehelped
chartacourseforchange,theimportanceofstrong
teamsandleadershipduringtransformations,and
whereheseestheindustryheading.Thefollowing
transcripthasbeeneditedforclarity.
bemoreefficient.Whenwestartedtomove,we
gotridoformodernizeddatedsystemsandtools
thatwewould’veotherwiseleftuntouchedifwe
hadn’tchanged.Thisstephelpedusbuildthe
infrastructure,security,andhygienefactorstohave
agoodfoundation.Intermsofefficiency,today’s
technologyisalotleanerandgreener.Technology
becameaproxyforautomationforus.Webuilt
straight-throughprocessing,whichnowhandles
morethan70percentofourtransactions.Seven
outoftenclaimstransactionsgostraightthrough
withouthumanintervention.
AnandSwaminathan:TheinsuranceindustryhasAnandSwaminathan:Howdidyoumeasurethe
historicallybeenperceivedaslow-techandface-valueofthesetechnologytransformations?
to-face.Asaleadingglobalinsurerwithahundred-
year-pluslegacy,howhasAIAchallengedthisBiswaMisra:Thereisacostadvantage,butonly
perception?ifyoucompletethetransformationatscale.Not
manycompaniescanbeatthelevelofcloud
BiswaMisra:IthinkofAIAasoneofthebellwetheradoptionthatwehaveachievedbecauseofthe
companiesleadingthemarket,notjustintermsbreadthofcoveragewehaveaswellasthemodern
ofdigitalexperiencesanddigitalizationbuttechnologiesthatcameinasapartofthecloud.
alsointermsofefficiency.ThepervasivenessWehaveaninternalrateofreturnofmorethan10
oftechnologyinAsia,whereweoperate,waspercent.Thebusinesscaseformovingtothecloud
somethingthatweexperienceasconsumers,andspokeforitself.Somesofterbenefitsincludeda
financialservicescannotbeinisolationfromthatmindsetshifttothatofanomnichannelcompany.
macrotrend.Alotofthefoundationsweputinplace
werecenteredonhowtomodernizeahundred-AnandSwaminathan:Howdoyouattract,retain,
plus-year-oldcompanytomakesurewetapintotheandmotivatetalentatAIA,andhowdoyou
mindsetofconsumersandprovidethemahigh-techcontinuouslydeveloppeopleoncethey’reatthe
experience.company?
AnandSwaminathan:AtMcKinsey,wehavefoundBiswaMisra:Talentisanimportantaspectforany
that,inAsia,agooddealofinnovationinmarketingcompany.Weareapurpose-drivencompany—we
anddistributionisbeingdrivenbyinsurtechsinthewanttomakeAsiahealthierandhelpourcustomers
lifeandhealthspace.AIA’stransformationfocusedlivehealthier,longer,betterlives.It’sapowerful
onthreepillars:technology,digital,andanalytics.Inaxiom.Thefirstpartinourtalentacquisitionand
somecases,organizationsstruggledtodoallthreeretentionprocessistogivepeopleapurposetohelp
wellatthesametime.Whatwasyourapproach?themstayoncourse.Ourattritionatseniorlevelsis
quitelowonthetechnologyside.Ibelievetheinnate
BiswaMisra:Wefoundthatcompaniesoftenreasonforthatisourpeople’sdesiretochangethe
developedatechstrategyandabusinessstrategy,faceoflifeandhealthinsuranceinAsia.
andeventuallythetechstrategysupportedthe
businessstrategy.AspartofourtransformationInsuranceisalow-tech,low-touchindustry,and
atAIA,wefocusedonbringingintechnologiestheseeffortsarechangingthefaceofitforever.
toaugment,supplement,andembellishourFromachangemanagementperspective,one
businessstrategy.Wemadeastrategiccalltoofthethingswetrytodoisinfusepeoplewho
runalltechnologiesthatwecouldonthecloud,arecomingfromdifferentindustriesandfrom
whichhelpeduscreateasolidfoundationtodifferentsegmentswithintheinsuranceindustry
moveeverythingweneededtoanewspaceandstep-by-stepintoourexistingworkforce.It’sbeen
alearningopportunity.Theonlywaythisstorywillsucceedisif[ourcurrentworkforcedoesn’t]feelleftout.Sowebroughtinexecutiveleadershipprogramsthathelpedtoskewpeople’sperceptionstowardlearnability.Canabusinessanalystbeadatascientist?Canatraditionalinfrastructureguybecomeacloudspecialist?Whoknows?Butunlessyoumakeaconcertedeffort,you’llneverknow.
Duringthetransformation,weinvestedinfourareas:agile,human-centereddesign,cloud,andanalytics.Internally,understandingoftheseconceptshasdevelopedimmensely,whichhasbeenakeyfoundationforustoretaintalent,integratepeopleintothatjourney,andmakesurethatnewpeopleandestablishedpeoplewhounderstandourexistingapplicationscancoexist,collaborate,andprosper.
AnandSwaminathan:Ourresearchshowsthistalentgapisstillquitesignificantinorganizations,especiallywhenconsideringtechnology,digitalanalytics,andskillsets.There’snotavastsupplyoftalentfromwhichwecanpickandchoosewhoeverwewant,wheneverwewant.Gettingthebesttechnologytalentordigitaltalenttakesrealskill,effort,andpatience—andthenit’simportanttodeveloppeople’scapabilitiesandkeepthemmotivated.
Let’sswitchgears,Biswa.Fundamentally,technologyisever-changing,andtherearenewcapabilitiesbeingintroducedeveryday.Howdoyouseethefuturefortheinsuranceindustrywhenitcomestoadoptingtechnologies?Howareyoupreparingforthatfuture?
BiswaMisra:Thenatureoftechnologyisthatitalwayschanges,soit’snosurprisethatitkeepsevolving.Thebestcompaniestrytolookattechnologiesthatarerelevantandintegratethemintoendoutcomes,suchasproductivity,experience,or,insomecases,efficiency.Sofar,wehavebuiltalotofperformancesystemswithbasicintelligence.ThenextphaseofourtechjourneyistobuildmoreintelligenceintotheseperformancesystemsusingthepowerofAIanddataanalytics.Oureffortwillbefocusedonharnessingthetonsofdatathatwehaveavailable,structuredandunstructured,andmatchingthemwithourperformancesystems
sothatenduserscanstarttoseethealphaforthemselves.
TheywillbeabletointeractwithAIAthrough
theirsuperapp.Wecanusefacialrecognitiontoallowthemtoswitchfundsornudgethemaboutcompletingtheirannualhealthcheckupsbasedontheirhealthhistory.AIisaverypowerfultoolwhenit’susedethicallybecauseitcanhelppeoplelivehealthierandlonger.Forexample,ifsomeonesubmitsaclaim,AIcouldsuggestaspecialistwhohandlestheconditionthatthepersonisdealingwith.Itbecomeshyperpersonalized.Wehavetalkedaboutpersonalizationandhyperpersonalizationforalongtimeinthefinancial-servicesindustry,butnowisthetimewhentherealpotentialwillstarttocomeintoplaywhenweconsideracustomer’svitality.Wecanlookattheirprofileandmakesuggestionsbasedonhowthey’redoing.Thenwecantapintoourwideecosystemofhospitals,healthcareproviders,andwellnessproviders.WecanusedataandAItointegrateAIAintocustomers’lives.It’llbefascinatingtoseehowthesethingsevolveandhowwecanuseconversationalAIandcognitivecomputing.
AnandSwaminathan:WhatadvicedoyouhaveforinsurersoutsideofAsiabasedonwhatyou’velearnedfromthisjourney?
BiswaMisra:Twokeythingsinspiredmeduringourtransformationjourney.Itbecamecleartomewhat“voicefromthetop”means.WehaveagroupCEOwhobelievesinusingthepoweroftechnologytochangetheinsurancelandscapeandbuildsomethingtohelpwithefficiency,customerexperience,anddistribution.Thattone-settingfromthetopisimportanttosettherightdirection.Thesecondone,whichisequally,ifnotmore,critical,istheteam.Thevisionoftheexecutiveteamisimportant,butitmustbebackedbyateamthatbelievesinthisvision—ateamthatisdedicated,committed,andpassionateaboutthepurpose.Andacommittedexecutiveteamfurtherdrivesthevalueforyourstakeholders.
AnandSwaminathan:Werethereanyinspiringmomentsinyourlifethatinspiredyourpassionfortechnology?Whatdefinesyourleadershiptoday?
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BiswaMisra:Myleadershipistiednottomypersonalstorybutrathertothestoryofmyteam,ourpeople,andourleadershipteam.Thistransformationhasbeenateameffort,andwecouldn’thavegottenwherewearenowwithouteveryoneworkingtogether.
Whatshapedmyowninterestintechnologyandplayingaroleisperhapsmoreofasidestorytothat.Throughoutmylife,I’veknownmanypeoplewhoneededhelpfromahealthandwell-beingperspective,andinsurancewasanaturaldomainformetoseethattechnologycouldhelpthepeoplethatIgrewupwith—thegeneralfraternitythatweserve—andmaketheirlivesalittlebitbetter.
Ihaveneverworkedinotherindustries.I’vebeeninlifeandhealthallmycareer,andIhaveseeninthepastthreeyearsespecially,andformydurationatAIA,thattechnologycanplayakeyroleinachievingthatchildhooddream—tousetechnologytomakesomebody’slifelesspainful—andthat’swhatIwillcontinuetopursue.
BiswaMisraisthegroupchieftechnologyofficerandlifeoperationsofficeratAIAGroup.AnandSwaminathanisaseniorpartnerinMcKinsey’sSanFranciscooffice.
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