Home《家园（2020）》第二季第十集完整中英文对照剧本

1、加纳人是殖民历史的产物Ghanaians are products of a colonial history.但我们也深受自己本土传统所影响But we are really steeped in our local traditions.我们还保留着自己文化的生活节奏We still have our own indigenous rhythm.我们从来没有断绝与过去的连结We never lose connection with the past.这就是家园That's the homeland.我们在简单的房♥屋中成长 但当中有很多爱We grew up

2、in very simple homes, but with a lot of love.我们现正处于非洲建筑去殖民化的时代We're in the era now of decolonizing African architecture.这件事我已经做了20年This I've been doing for 20 years.尝试重新定义非洲建筑师 可以是怎样或者可以做什么Trying to redefine what an African architect could be or could do.（加纳，阿克拉，创意原生屋）超创意新居这是我屋企This is my ho

3、me.在我家乡加纳的创意原生屋The Inno-Native House in my homeland, Ghana.这间屋是我回加纳之后建的A home that I constructed when I returned to Ghana,我之前在外国生活了30年after living abroad for 30 years.加纳位于赤道以北5度的位置Ghana sits five degrees north of the equator.所以你也想像到气温是相当热So you can imagine the intense heat.这设计的必备条件？The key prerequis

4、ites of this design?（屋主兼建筑师，祖奥萨亚度）我可以证明你可以在热带建屋Well, I could prove that you could have a house in the tropics而又不需要冷气who doesn't need air-conditioning.这间屋是被开放的空间包围着The house is arranged around open spaces.这里没有墙壁强行制♥造♥十字通风There are no walls to force the cross ventilation.创意原生

5、屋感觉就好像是 独有的加纳式房♥屋The Inno-Native home feels like a uniquely Ghanaian home.它运用了很多现代的技术It utilizes a mix of contemporary techniques（助理教授，达莉亚尼度姆）以及传统建筑方法及材料with traditional building practices and materials.这里是个绿州It's an oasis.一踏入大闸的那刻就感觉到平静It feels serene from the moment you step into th

6、e gate.然后当你见到那间屋 感觉就是座落在景观之中And then you see the home and it feels nestled in the landscape.特别是因为它用上了很多本地天然材料Especially because of its use of local natural materials,而在加纳的房♥屋，这是比较罕见which you don't necessarily see a lot in the homes in Ghana.这间屋是由很多东西所建成This house is made up of all the

7、 things而这些都是现代非洲建筑所排斥的that contemporary African construction rejects.我认为这间屋没有什么原创的意念In my book, there's no original idea.我在这间屋所做的一切都不是我原创的All the things I did in my house, I didn't invent them,但我把它变得有个人风格 因为我把它改造来配合我的生活方式but I've made it my own because I adapted it to suit my lifestyle.从

8、西方文化还有自己文化取材 我开始了这个建屋的旅程Taking from the West, and from my own, I started the journey of creating a home.祖亚度是个出色的加纳建筑师Joe Addo is an amazing Ghanaian architect.他很热心宣传加纳和加纳式建筑He's very passionate about promoting Ghana, promoting Ghanaian architecture.谢谢你，巴巴Thank you, Baaba.祖是那种充满活力、喜欢与别人来往的人Joe is

9、 a bubbly, love-people kind of guy.（祖的姐姐，玛娜亚度）他什么人也喜欢，也欢迎大家到他的家He likes everybody. He welcomes everybody in the house.（创意原生屋经理，巴巴艾基卡菲）祖亚度对我们都很好，所以他是好人Joe Addo is always nice to us. So he is a nice one.对Yeah.祖到哪里去，总会有人喊：“白先生”Everywhere Joe goes, "Mr. White!"因为祖常常穿白色的衣服'Cause Joe's a

10、lways in white.我从来没见过我爸爸穿不是白色的衣服I have never seen my father in clothes that are not white.我想他好像有一件啡色和卡其色的衫 只有那么多I think that he has, like, a brown shirt and khakis and that's it.（祖的儿子，坤古奥萨亚度）我上网搜寻“白先生” 然后搜寻到的是绝命毒师I actually googled "Mr. White," and then I found out about Breaking Bad.有

11、一段时间，我以为爸爸是毒贩For a while, I thought my dad was a crack dealer.他绝对是那种一走入房♥间就令到大家He's definitely one of those people that lights up the room变得开心的那种人when they come in.所有人都被他吸引Everyone's drawn to him.只因为他爱交际和热心的性格That's just because of his gregarious, passionate spirit.他喜欢思考建筑和设计H

12、e's very interested in thinking about how architecture and design能够如何建构社区发展计划和改变加纳can create community development and change in Ghana.欢迎来到另一集Welcome to another episode.（SANE GBAA电台节目现场录音）我们的主题是 加纳数码媒体空间中的娱乐情况Our topic is the state of entertainment in the digital media space in Ghana.我们跟真切有关的人一起

13、讨论And how we on the ground here而我们也可以参与 令加纳成为一个更好的地方，你明白吗？can also do our part in making Ghana a much better place. You know?我是读建筑出身的，但我会I am an architect by training but I'd-我形容自己为设计社会经济学家I refer to myself as a design social economist.所以我一直深信建构So I've always believed in creating places and

14、spaces让人们团结起来的地方和空间that help bring people together.并不是我一个人做Not only do it by myself,我也需要依靠其他人的力量和贡献I have to depend on the energy of and the contributions of other people.所以我开始在加纳做电台节目So I started a radio show in Ghana,一个让大家讨论创意的地方a forum where creativity can be discussed.我们怎样可以 利用共同目标将大家团结起来How can

15、 we gather people together in a common cause然后建构一个我们引以为傲的未来？in order to forge a future that we can be proud of?殖民♥主♥义对我们的想法有深远的影响Colonialism has had a vise grip on our minds.我们需要制♥造♥ 一种加纳式艺术，而它亦需要We need to produce a Ghanaian art that has the same aestheti

16、c standards跟最成熟的欧洲艺术有相同的美学标准as the most sophisticated European art-但而又不是向欧洲叩头 -没错- without being kowtowing to Europe. - Right.祖对建筑非常了解What Joe has done is understand architecture so well而他知道自己 可以用上了加纳和西方的材料that he can use Ghanaian materials and Western materials而且亦很了解他应该用哪一种and understand which ones

17、 he should use.你没有忘本You didn't forget your roots.我小时候狂画画I drew nonstop as a child.因为我能相信我的画画本能 可以捕捉我当时的感觉'Cause I can trust my drawing instincts all the time to capture what I'm feeling.我并不是班中画画最好的那个学生 但我从不放弃I was not necessarily the best artist in class, but I never gave up,我真的令自己画画技巧有进

18、步and I really pushed my drawing skills.（没问题）（欢迎来到开普敦卡雅利沙）我喜欢漫画，丁丁历险记是我的最爱I love comic books. Tintin was my favorite.我在加纳生活，但透过丁丁历险记 我走遍全世界I was based in Ghana, but I traveled the world through Tintin books.我是在艰难时期离开了加纳的那一代人I'm from a generation who left Ghana during tough times.我们那时候刚经历了 推&h

19、earts;翻♥腐♥败♥军政♥府♥的革命We just had a revolution from a previously very corrupt military government.国内有很多需要和匮乏And there was so much need and deprivation.所以我在1981年离开加纳，去了伦敦So, I left Ghana in 1981 and headed to London,我姐姐玛娜当时在那里生活where my sister Maan

20、aa was living.（地铁，银行站）我听说过建筑联盟学院I heard about the Architectural Association School of Architecture.作为一个17岁的人And as a 17-year-old,走进那幢建筑物，然后去登记处说walked into the building and to the registrar and I said,“我想入读这间学校”"I want to come to this school."我没钱交学费 什么都没有，我就走进那里I had no ways of paying fees

21、, nothing. I just walked in there.然后她看着我说：“你有作品集吗？”And she looked at me and she said, "Do you have a portfolio?"我说：“没有” 她说：“好吧，我给你一个星期I said, "No." She said, "Okay. I'll give you a week.在伦敦四处走走，然后素描”Walk around London and sketch."我一星期后回去面试I came back a week later fo

22、r the interview,然后那里有来自世界各地的学生 他们都有作品集and there are students from all over the world with portfolios.我只有一本小小的A4素描册 我就走进面试房♥里面I had my little A4 sketchbook, and I went into the interview room.那里有张长枱 我从来没有见过这么多白人A long table- I had never seen so many white people,你懂的，在同一个空间里you know, in one

23、 space in my life.我由心地说：“看看我的画作”I just spoke from my heart, "Look at my drawings."这是电邮出现之前的时代And this was before email,我在姐姐玛娜的家收到电♥话♥I got a call in my sister's apartment, Maanaa's apartment,他们招收了我，我实在无法相信that they had accepted me. I couldn't believe it.在1

24、986年，我一毕业后 就去了纽约做一份建筑的工作In 1986, once I graduated, I went to New York for an architecture job.纽约是我第一次离开安舒区的生活体验New York was my first living experience outside of my comfort zone.新的文化，新的想法New cultures, new thinking.那时候美国的民权辩论The civil rights debates going on in America at the time重新唤醒了我的自我身份认同和价值reaw

25、akened my own sense of identity and purpose.在美国，种族和共存的问题很严重In America, the issues of race and coexistence, it's so stark.我无法把自己跟非裔美国人朋友分隔开And I could not disassociate myself from my African American friends他们每天都要面对这些问题who had to deal with these issues on everyday basis.我开始寻找我的历史、我的种族 我找到我自己的非洲人特

26、质I got involved in discovering my heritage, my ethnicity. I discovered my Africanness.我的建筑所受的影响Well, my architecture's driven主要是非洲自治运动more by the African Freedom Movement than any other architects.我心中的英雄是非裔革命家 例如麦尔坎X、萨文比、内图My heroes were the African revolutionary leaders: Malcolm X, Savimbi, Net

27、o.他们启发我成为了Those were the ones that inspired my conversion伪激进社运建筑师to the pseudo-militant, activist architect.到了1991年，我去了洛杉矶By 1991, I headed to Los Angeles.我有自己的事务所，设计高尚住♥宅♥I had my own practice doing high-end residential work.不过我在洛杉矶生活的时候 有段时间我失去了跟加纳的联♥系♥H

28、owever, I had lost my connection to Ghana for a time, living in Los Angeles.（投票站，那里）在2000年，加纳举♥行♥了大选In 2000, Ghana had big elections.感觉好像民♥主♥终于来临了It felt like democracy is finally here.（加纳今日的大选记录了民♥主♥里程碑）大家都充满希望There was a great deal

29、of optimism.（加纳奠定了新时代的开始）我受当时的狂热所影响I got caught in that fever.我可以参与其中的时候 我究竟在洛杉矶里做什么？What am I doing in Los Angeles when I could be part of this ride, you know?（加纳新总统宣誓就职）所以我决定搬回加纳 成为这历程的一分子So, I decided to move home to Ghana to be a part of it.那时候，我已经很融入洛杉矶的文化 连灵高史达也是我的客户At this point, I'm so L

30、A. Ringo Starr is my client at this point.洛杉矶的人根本无法相信The LA crowd could never believe it.我要回加纳做什么？ “祖，你傻了吗？”What am I gonna do in Ghana? "Joe, are you nuts?"我想建一间屋标志着I wanted to build a house that symbolized全新加纳的梦想和理想those dreams and aspirations of brand-new Ghana.一个适合我和家人抱负的场景A scenario w

31、hich suits my ambitions and that of my family.多可爱的狗狗Such a lovely dog.祖和我很相似Joe and I look alike.不只是外表，性格也是Not just on the outside, but inside as well.我们心意相通，一搭一唱We finish each other's sentences.我们的关系很融洽We're cool together.这是反映我们少年时的一道菜 我们称之为“那一味”This was a meal that reflected our youth. We

32、called it "the thing."我们真的会很兴奋We really got excited about-就好似我们吃汉堡做晚餐一样This was like us having burgers for dinner.基本上是番薯和盐腌牛肉It's basically yam and corned beef stew.我做得怎样？How am I doing?-看起来好正，闻起来好似好辣 -谢谢，谢- Looks really nice. Smells really spicy. - Thank you. Thank-我是祖的伴侣So I'm Jo

33、e's partner.我们没有正式结婚，但他是我老公And we are not formally married, but he's my husband.（祖的太太，图莉萨利拉）我负责讲，但我老婆图莉负责做I do all the talking, but the action happens with my wife, Tuuli.她让我做自己，你明白吗？ 我就负责一直讲She allows me to be Joe, you know? I do all the yacking.然后正式的工作由她来做And she's doing all the proper

34、 work.你需要有人跟你说：“别再乱吹，快点You need somebody who can tell you, "Stop bullshitting and just get-快点做完这件事” 以一个很平和的心情来说Let's get the job done." In a very calm way, you know?我们十分合拍 他是梦想家，而我是实践家We're a good team, as far as he's the dreamer and I'm the doer.我们交往初期，很早就决定We decided very

35、 early on in our relationship要一起开公♥司♥to start a company together.-凤♥凰♥木终于开花了 -对，终于开花了- The flamboyants are finally blooming. - I know. They are blooming.我老婆图莉是芬兰人My wife Tuuli is a Finnish.每个芬兰人都对设计有兴趣 设计就好像他们基因之中Every Finn is interested in design. It'

36、s like in their DNA.他们的国家英雄是建筑师，真的很正Their national heroes are architects. It's amazing.所以他们对于创意空间 有特别的关连和亲切感So they all have this very special bonding and affinity with the creative space.我们初相识时，我对祖的第一印象是When we first met, my first impression of Joe他很难顶was that he was too much.因为他就突然间一直说这些芬兰的事情B

37、ecause all of a sudden, all these things about Finland, you know,这些芬兰故事，他怎样认识这个那个all these stories and how he knows people and this and that.但当我开始了解他But as I got to know him,他解释自己在芬兰待过很长时间he explained that he had actually spent a lot of time in Finland而他也十分欣赏我们的建筑、我们的文化and had a deep appreciation fo

38、r our architecture, our culture.我们初次约会是去埃塞俄比亚餐厅Our first date was in an Ethiopian restaurant.然后第二次约会，他决定 带我去他村落的一个丧礼And then the second date, he chose to take me to a funeral in his village我在那里认识他全家where I met his whole family包括他妈妈和兄弟姐妹including his mother and his sisters and brothers.如我所说，他会令人难以招架A

39、s I said, he's a lot.-真不同 -哗- What a differ- - Wow.看看那棵棕榈树，看它长得多高Look at the palm tree too, how tall the palm tree has grown.这是我们初搬到这间屋时的坤古That's Kwaku when we first moved into the house.-看那石栗树多小 -对，你小时候有人送给你的- Look how small the kukui tree is. - Yeah. You got it as a baby.我们要重拍这照片，过来站这里We&#

40、39;re gonna recreate that picture. So come and stand there.让我再看这照片，让我看Let me see the picture again. Let me see.你看，你当时大概得1米高Here, you were maybe 3-feet tall.坤古是我跟前妻生的儿子Kwaku is my son with my ex-wife,是第一个在这间屋长大的孩子and was the first child to grow up crawling in that house.-好，那么对 -唏，怎么了？- Okay, so- Yep.

41、 - Hey, what's up?在家的感觉非常好，我很期待It's always great to be home. I look forward to it.而且我们有一个很好的支援系统And we have a great support system.有人每年令这间屋更有屋企的感觉People who help us make it feel homier every year.这样真好，拍得很好This is so nice. It's a nice picture.对我来说，家就真的是加纳To me, home really is Ghana.加纳是个典型

42、的热带国家，座落在大西洋Ghana is a classic tropical country. It sits on the Atlantic Ocean.这里有草原、森林和沙漠We have grasslands, we have forest and we have desert.这一切都在这小国之中All in this small country.所以很多元化，这里的人和文化亦然So it's very diverse, as its people are, and the culture is.即使大家有着不同的文化Even though we're cultura

43、lly different,所有人都融和得十分好we're people that really mesh together well.大家都互相接受People are very tolerant of each other.加纳有一些传统的建筑方式In Ghana, you have traditional building practices that have been based而那是根据气候而做的 利用了很多林木、木材、竹子on climate conditions, using a lot of wood and timber, bamboo,或编织出来的材料or wov

44、en elements.有很多这些轻身、透气、通风良好的结构There was a lot of these sort of light, airy, well-ventilated structures全都是因应气候而出现that were developed as a reaction to the climate.传统的建筑方式是用土砖The traditional way of building: using the adobe brick.泥砖屋是用这些土砖所建成That's what they build the mud-brick houses from.因为泥土中有水份

45、，而水份有冷却的作用Because the clay has water in it, it has a cooling effect.在热带的这种天气下In this temperature in the tropics,十分适合用来冷却房♥子的温度it's ideal to cool down the temperature of a house.虽然我们有这些传统的建筑方式Although we had the traditional ways of building,但我们都深信这并非现代的建筑方式it was imbued in us that that

46、's not contemporary.在英国殖民时代During the occupation by the British,就可以见到建筑材料的改变 开始用上混凝土和水泥you began to see the building materials start to change, like concrete and cement.英国人把波特兰水泥卖♥♥给我们The British were selling us Portland cement,那是一种在世界大部分地方a product that's the binder给任何

47、结构材料的接合料for any structural material in most parts of the world.而殖民地是推广这英国物料的巨大市场And the colonies were great markets to push this British product.因为说服我们Because it was in their self-interest这是唯一的建筑方式对他们有利to convince us that that's the only way of building.当我们身处在这种后殖民氛围While you're in this post

48、colonial climate, you're still sort of你还依赖着前殖民者入口这些外国物料relying on the former colonial powers to import these foreign materials.水泥在非洲是十分昂贵 因为这是入口的物料Cement is very expensive in Africa 'cause it's always imported.而水泥会把热力困住Cement retains heat.所以当你走进很多西非的水泥建筑So when you walk into a lot of the

49、 concrete buildings in West Africa,你会感觉到有一阵热气散发出来you'll feel this kind of like heat resonating off of them.当殖民者用水泥来兴建建筑物When the colonial masses were building out of cement blocks,我们这些本地人忘了传统的建筑方式we, the locals, forgot the traditional way.因为现时所教导的建筑学 都是以欧洲原则为中心Because architecture, as it's t

50、aught now, is always guided by European principles.我需要兴建一个反映出我理想的建筑I needed to create an architecture which spoke about my aspirations.我希望用本土和可持续的物料 去兴建一幢现代建筑I wanted to build a contemporary building out of local and sustainable materials并与土著的思想互相交织interwoven with indigenous motifs.这间屋价钱合理是很重要的It wa

51、s important for this house to be affordable.这是一间价值五万美元的屋It's a $50,000 house.你怎样兴建一间 简单而又令人惊讶的屋呢？How do you create a simple house and still get people to go, "Wow"?有些人说我没可能做到I was told I could never pull it off.他们说：“祖，那木头会烂掉”People said, "Joe, that timber will be chewed up."我

52、说：“设计是令到 这创新解决方法有效的重要元素”I said, "Design is a key component in making this innovative solution work."为了造一块泥砖，我踏上了寻找的旅程To make a mud block, I went on what I called a journey of discovery.我走遍整个加纳东部 看看这东西是怎样建造的I traveled across the eastern region of Ghana to see how this thing was made.我停在路边St

53、opping by the roadside,看到村民在制♥造♥最基本的泥砖seeing the villagers making very basic mud bricks.然后我根据他们做法 制♥作♥出自己版本的泥砖And I then did my own version of what they were doing.尝试寻找一种适合的泥土去造砖Trying to find, one, the right type of clay to use.适合的水和泥土的比例The right water-t

54、o-clay ratios.你要有很强的欲望 才能坚持下去，直到你找到合适的配方It takes the drive to just keep going till you get it right.我走遍加纳的木林和市场I traveled to timber forests and markets across Ghana寻找合适的原材料to search for the right raw materials.你怎样利用身边的一切How do you take what's around you然后透过设计进行改动 而创造一个独特的体验？and tweak it through

55、design to create a unique experience?其中一个最大的考验是 找到一队合适的木匠So one of the big challenges was finding the right crew of carpenters.因为在加纳，我们都用混凝土建屋 所以我们会找石匠Because in Ghana, we build out of concrete, so we use masons.大部分木匠从来没有建过全间屋Most of the carpenters never built a whole house.所以要寻找合适的木匠 去组合这个木材结构To fi

56、nd the right carpenters to assemble this timber structure.虽然他们负责组合 他们也要亲自好好处理它们Though they assemble it, they'd have to treat it themselves.木材是天然的材料Timber, it's a natural material.未经处理的木会腐朽，容易受天气影响Left untreated, it can rot. It's susceptible to the weather.因为湿气可以令木材涨大或缩小It can expand and

57、contract due to moisture,而在建筑物里which, of course, in a building,木材需要更受控制needs to be in a bit more of a controlled fashion.重点是要有耐性It's just about patience.愿意学习新事物的人People who are willing to learn something new.我很幸运找到这个团队And I was lucky to find that crew.我砌第一块砖的那天就开始种树I start planting my trees the

58、day I lay the first brick.我花了一整年时间才建好这间屋It took me a year to build this house.所以这间屋建好的时候，一切都长出来了So by the time that the house was done, everything was green.种树的话，树枝会长到屋那里去If you plant trees, their branches over your house,这就是第一道防线that's the first line of defense.它会制♥造♥树荫，然后太阳永远晒不到屋顶It creates shade, and the sun nev