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建筑城市及文化的关系Relationship between Architectural Cities and Cultures扎哈哈迪德:我不认为全球化本身是一个负面的因素,我来自伊拉克,在英国居住、而不是在我的祖国,但是这种客居他乡对我来说是一个积极的因素,我在新的环境中学到了新的东西。Zaha Hadid: I do not think the globalization itself is a negative factor. Im from Iraq, but living in the UK, rather than in my motherland. However, living in a foreign land is a positive factor to me, as I can learn something new in the new environment.三四十年前我在美国上学的时候,同学中有不同国籍的人,他们能够丰富建筑的文化,因为我们不是专门为一些国家来工作,所以能够也有必要相互借鉴。我最近在巴西和墨西哥工作,他们的建筑文化中有很多元素借鉴自摩洛哥,但是从摩洛哥借鉴这些东西之后又对它进行了改良,而不是一成不变,这是非常有意思的。Thirty or forty years ago, when I studied in the United States, some classmates had different nationalities, they could enrich the architectural cultures, as we were not work for some countries exclusively, so it was necessary for us to learn from each other. Recently Im working in Brazil and Mexico, many elements in their architectural cultures were borrowed from Morocco, but they also improved these elements instead of keeping unchanged. It is very interesting.我三十年前来过中国,那次旅行对我非常重要,我在这里买了很多的画作,之后我受到了这些画作的很大影响,我觉得个体的文化不会一直保持一个静止的价值,在潜意识中他们都会对我产生影响。我还记得在上海、苏州参观过的中国传统园林,我曾经开玩笑说我不喜欢自然,因为他们带我看了太多的公园,但是实际上我非常喜欢那些岩石。我并不是中国人,我不想我的作品完全呈现中国的东西,但是中国的东西确实对我产生了一些影响,甚至对我们这些个体的设计师和我们整个行业都产生了影响,这是有趣和让人激动的。在几个世纪前,人们没有办法到世界各地旅行游历,可能只能是道听途说,知道异域是怎么样的,但是现在不一样。中国现在的高速发展中,变化巨大,同样的变化可能在欧洲需要几个世纪的时间,这些都是发展的结果。我觉得在中国发展的过程中不可能完全摒弃全球化的影响,但是仍然可以使城市变得更美好,因为现在城市的文化也在不断的演化发展到一个新的水平,我相信没有事情是静止的,万物都在发展变化中,我们会看到城市中产生新的文化和音乐等等。三十年前我同时访问了中国和俄罗斯,发现这两个国家是不太一样的,在我第一次到中国来之前,我并没意识到中国有这样的文化,所以我想人们通过创造,可以把他们的想法变成现实,我认为这是一件非常激动人心的事,所以虽然时间在流逝,这些会变得更好,因为中国人口众多,他们熟悉自己的国家,他们的抱负也越来越大,我觉得这是一件很好的事情。从普利兹克奖历史上也能看到,这个奖项的水平也是不断提升的。总之我想,事物是在变化的。I came to China thirty years ago, and that trip was very important to me. I bought many paintings here and greatly influenced by these paintings afterwards. I think an individual culture cannot always maintain a static value, instead all of them can influence on me in my subconscious. I still remember the traditional Chinese gardens I visited in Shanghai and Suzhou, I used to say I disliked the nature as a joke, just because they took me to visit too many parks, but in fact, I liked those rocks very much. I am not a Chinese, so I do not want my works completely presenting the Chinese elements, but they have some impacts on me, even impacts on our individual designers and our whole industry, which is really interesting and exciting. Many centuries ago, there was no way to travel around the world, people could only know about the foreign lands from hearsay, but it is not the same now. China is in the high-speed development with huge changes, whereas the same changes may have cost centuries of time in Europe, which is just the result of development.I think Chinas development process cannot totally ignore the impact of globalization, but the cities can still be made much better, because the city cultures have been continually evolving and developing to a new level. I believe that nothing is static while all things are developing and changing, we will see the new cultures and new music coming into being in cities. Thirty years ago, I visited China and Russia at one time, and found these two countries are not the same. Before I visited China at the first time, I had not realized China had such a culture, so I think people can put their ideas into reality by creations, which I think it is a very exciting thing. Therefore, with the lapse of time, these respects will become much better, because of Chinas large population, they are familiar with their own country, and their ambitions become bigger and bigger, which I think is a very great thing. We can also see from the history of Pritzker Architecture Prize, the level of this award is continually upgrading. In a word, all things are changing.我认为土地、环境是非常重要的,在每一个具体的建筑中,你需要注意地面的情况,在伦敦,如果银行售出某一块地,这块土地的属性就会立刻发生改变,这就很快地改变了一个城市的生活方式和景观。所以我们应该努力去创造伟大的建筑,我非常强调客户的参与,因为客户的理想和设计师不会总是一样的,在一个城市里面,市政府也会有一个总体的政策,这个政策不是针对所有的建筑,而是一个具体的地块,比如使一个建筑成为一个公众的区域,但是除此之外,也要让它承担起它的功能,让人能够在其中工作和居住,为此就需要做研究。有人提到千楼一面的情况,但是我想如果这些建筑的外观就算都一样,但只要都是好的建筑,实际也不是坏事。千楼一面是不够多彩,但千楼都好要比一千个楼都非常平庸,只有几个突出要更好一些。In my point of view, the land and the environment are very important, and in each of the specific architecture, you need to pay attention to the situation on the ground. In London, after a bank sells some pieces of land, the land property will be changed immediately, which also quickly changes the lifestyle and landscape of a city. Therefore, we should strive to create great architectures, and I put great emphasis on the customer involvement, because the ideals of customers and architects cannot always be the same. In a city, the government will also have a general policy, which is not against all the architectures but a specific plot of land. For example, if they want an architecture to become a public area, but apart from this, they also need to make it undertake its functions, and let people work and live inside, with regards to this, they need to research. Some people make mention of “thousands of architectures are similar”, but I think even the appearances of these architectures are the same, but as long as they are good architectures, it is not a bad thing. “Thousands of architectures are similar” is not colorful enough, but thousands of good architectures are better than thousands of mediocre ones or only a few prominent ones among them.格伦马库特:我们经常谈论一个一个单独的建筑,我想这里面存在一个大的问题,就是我们会以为我们只是在设计一个个体的建筑,而不是把它和它的周围联系在一起,所以扎哈哈迪德讲到地面的环境是非常重要的,我对于赫尔辛基这座城市非常熟悉,它的市中心环境非常好,每一个建筑相互之间是相互联系的,楼的外面有连续性,周边有公园,公园有很多人,整体感非常强,每一个建筑都和周围形成了关系,相互产生影响。Glenn Murcutt: We often talk about separate architectures one by one, in which I think there e

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