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1、指挥中心给我家打了通电♥话♥Dispatch called me at my house.那是事发之后几个小时It was after hours.他们告知我They told me that a young kid had found一个小孩发现了一具躯干what they thought was a torso.没有头No head.没有胳膊No arms.没有腿 只是一具躯干No legs. Just, just the torso.这里是哪里Whats this area here?这里是钱纳尔维尤区This is Channel View here.就是在
2、那个地方and it was right down here.那个角落in this corner,那具躯干就是在那儿被发现的was where the torso was at.-就是这儿吗 -是的- Right here? - Right here.坦白讲This is probably the one time这可能是我第一次I can honestly say that Ive真正扼住别人的喉咙actually reached down somebodys throat.为了把躯干捞起来Because in order to get the torso out,我不得不扼住他的喉咙I
3、had to take my hand down the throat手指抓在胸骨处and put my fingers around the breastbone,把他从水里捞上来and then pull him up out of the water.-你亲自动手了 -是的- Is that with your hand? - Yeah.是啊 不然我怎么把他捞上来呢Yeah. How else am I going to get him out?然后我们就开始And then we started our对这片地区进行了大范围的调查kind of a general survey of
4、the rest of the area.因此 我们发现了In doing so, thats when we found a bunch of很多黑色塑料垃圾袋浮在水上the black plastic trash bags that were floating in the water.我们尝试着找出塑料袋里有什么Well, trying to figure out what we had inside the bags,我们简单地对它们进行了鉴定we simply palpated the bags.就是摸了一下We just felt them.然后摸到了类似于手臂 手掌 手指的东西W
5、e had what felt like arms and hands, fingers.还摸到一条腿 你可以感觉到上面有膝盖 脚踝A leg, where you could feel the knee, the ankle,还有脚掌and the actual foot itself.装腿的一个塑料袋子里and one of the bags containing the legs,袋子上有很多小洞there was like small holes透过那些小洞that had gotten torn into the bag我们完全可以看到里面装了些什么where we could ac
6、tually look in,我记得我看到了一个脚趾and I recall seeing a toe.尸体按照从右腿 到左腿Dismemberment started with the right leg到左胳膊 到颈部and went to the left leg, to the left arm,然后到右胳膊的顺序被肢解to the neck, and then to the right arm.最后The right arm, being the last,凶手从中间锯开了右胳膊was cut but it was only sawn halfway through,可以明显看出来它
7、是破裂的 可能是践踏还是什么的and then it apparently broke, either by stepping on it导致了骨头的破裂or something, to break the bone.可能是凶手累了 时间不多了 还是什么的Getting tired, running out of time. Whatever it was.我从未处理过无头悬尸案Id never had a dismembered headless torso to investigate.我调查过枪杀案You know, Ive investigated my fair share of s
8、hootings,凶杀案 成千上万起调查案homicides. A whole array of investigations. Thousands!但我从未遇到过这种案子But I never had one of these.所以我知道这个案子会非常有趣So, I knew it was going to be interesting.我完全不知道介入调查有什么需要纠结的I had no idea of what I was fixin to step into.如果我知道 也许我就不会If I had of, Im, Im not so sure这么情愿地插一脚进去了I would ha
9、ve stepped in so willingly.德克萨斯州加尔维斯顿的浅水域A teenage boy fishing in the shallow waters一个小男孩钓鱼时偶然发现了off Galveston, Texas, stumbled on一起谋杀案的尸体the gruesome remains of a murder.除了头部SECOND MAN: Pretty much everything had washed up,其他的部位都冲上了岸with the exception of the head.那是这几天调查的焦点That was the focus of sev
10、eral days of searching.头部是唯一一个没被发现的部分Thats the only body part that was never recovered.我们起初找到的One of the most important things最重要的线索是张报纸that we found initially was a newspaper.我们可以看到一个2213大道K的地址名We were able to read an address of 2213 Avenue K.并在楼梯扶手发现了血迹And the blood that we found on the stair rail
11、,实际上沿着这条线it actually started kind of a trail到那一头that came right out here.径直到马路上And it went in right out to the, to the road.我们查出了业主We found out who owned the building.他的名字是克劳斯迪尔曼It was a guy by the name of Klaus Dillman.确定楼下Was able to ascertain that the tenant downstairs住在1号♥公♥寓&heart
12、s;的人was an older man named Morris Black是名叫莫里斯布莱克的年长房♥客that lived in Apartment Number 1.据他说 2号♥公♥寓♥租给了And then Apartment Number 2, he said, was rented by一名叫多萝西辛内尔的老太太 她是个哑巴a little old lady named Dorothy Ciner, who was a mute female.我们从垃圾袋中We were able to roll one of the f
13、ingerprints提取其中一个手指的指纹from the hand that was in the trash bag.以此我们可以鉴定出From that, we were able to identify the victim受害者是莫里斯布莱克as Morris Black.看起来在公共走廊It appeared that in the common hallway,有人擦去了血迹 引向了2号♥公♥寓♥someone had wiped up blood which led into Apartment 2,因此我获得了2号♥公
14、♥寓♥的搜查令which helped me to gain a search warrant into Apartment 2.我们观察到的是这个公♥寓♥非常干净What we observed then was a pretty pristine apartment.十分整洁Very neat.不寻常的是厨房♥的地板上What was unusual was on the floor of the kitchen有块罩布were drop cloths.我们把地板上的罩布拿了起来Once we got the drop
15、cloths pulled up from the floor,发现了一些小的刮痕we found some real small cuts.我紧张地把带有刮痕的区域What I wound up doing was to actually整个揭开了take and cut that entire area out.然后我就发现了血迹Thats when I found a bloodstain.于是我们把这血迹跟莫里斯布莱克进行对比We were actually able to match the blood back to Morris Black,因此我们得知so we knew th
16、at thats the location这儿就是他被肢解的地方where he had been dismembered.一开始我们跟房♥东交谈 他说When we first talked to the landlord, he said,有个女士租了2号♥公♥寓♥Well, theres a lady that rents Apartment Number 2,但她几乎不住这儿 因为她一直到处旅游but shes never there because she travels all the time.我就在想And Im thin
17、king to myself.如果她有钱一直到处旅游Well, if shes got the money to travel all the time,她也连续几个月不回And shes gone for months on end,那她租这破地方是什么回事whats she doing living in this dump?实际上 她被形容为Ha! In fact, it was kind of described as一个丑陋的聋哑女a real ugly deaf mute woman.公♥寓♥里几乎没有私人物品There was very little
18、personal items in the apartment.没有一点女人在这儿住过的痕迹There was nothing to suggest a woman lived there.危险警铃响起了Red flags started coming up.聋哑女经常旅游A mute female that travels a lot.但一个男人不时造访But a guy will be coming around every now and then.我猜想 根本没有多萝西辛内尔这个人Well, Im thinking, Well, theres no Dorothy Ciner,这只是个
19、伪装Thats just a cover.那个男人出于某种原因租了这间公♥寓♥This guy is renting this place for whatever reason.下一步是检查房♥子后The next step was to go through the trash can小巷里的垃圾桶in the alley behind the house.取出了每件垃圾Every piece of trash was taken out,我们进行了拍摄 标记 分类photographed, labeled, catalogued.这是张预约受理单
20、It was an appointment receipt,上面记录了日期和时间and on that contained information that gave us以及眼镜的购买♥♥处a date and time in which some eyeglasses were to be picked up.现在我不禁反问 到底罗伯特德斯特是谁Now Im thinking, Whos Robert Durst?仍有许多未解之谜Still a bunch of question marks.我把这张收据拿到了眼科诊所I take the receipt to
21、the eye clinic.问他们是否知道罗伯特德斯特Ask them if they know who Robert Durst is.前台女士说 知道The lady up front said, Yeah,他周五应该会来拿眼镜he was supposed to pick those glasses up on Friday.我就想 在拉斯维加斯也不会这么走运吧Im thinking, Vegas wouldnt touch these odds这家伙马上就要出现了this guys going to show up.但我说 如果他出现了 给你我的名片But I said, If he
22、 shows up, heres my card.这是我的传呼机号♥ 然后我就离开了Heres my pager number. And I left.在垃圾袋里 我们也发现了In the trash bags, we also found查默斯五金器具店的价格标签a price tag from Chalmers Hardware,这家店离莫里斯布莱克住的地方有两个街区which was two blocks away from where Morris Black lived.在查默斯买♥♥的商品包括Among the things that we
23、re bought from Chalmers4英寸的削皮刀were a 4-inch paring knife查默斯商标的罩布and drop cloths with the Chalmers tags on it.和一把弓锯Also bought at Chalmers was a bow saw.你瞧 我的传呼机响了Lo and behold, my pager goes off.我就像 我认得这串号♥码And Im like. and I recognized that number.但我脑海中 没串联起来But I, I havent, in my mind I did
24、nt connect the dots yet.然后他们打了911 我在想 谁打的电♥话♥啊And then they had put in 911. Im thinking, Who is that?突然 啊 那是眼科诊所Then, bam! Thats the eye clinic.我一个箭步跳进车里 极速开往第二十一街I jump in my car and Im coming up 21st Street.他刚把车从小巷的停车场开出来And he pulls out of the alleyway parking lot就在我前面right in front
25、 of me,赶上了红灯 我就在他后面and pulls up to the red light, and Im right behind him.我们的交通分部让他靠边停车Our Motor Division pulls him over,然后我们拘捕了他and we detain him.我记得我停下了车I recall pulling up to that,走了过去 从后挡风玻璃瞥了一眼and I walked up and glanced down through the back windshield.第一眼看到了弓锯And the first thing I saw was a b
26、ow saw.然后嘴角带着一丝坏笑Kind of got that grin.说道 好啊 我们抓住了他Saying, Yeah, we got him.当我看到他被带走Initial impressions when I saw him being brought in第一印象是 真的吗 是这个家伙吗was like, Really? This guy?是他干的吗 不像啊Did that? Didnt fit.老天 他看起来像个图书馆员God, the guy looks like a librarian!他看起来不像是个He doesnt look like a person会肢解尸体的人t
27、hat would dismember a human being.我跟他说明逮捕原因I explained to him hed been你知道的 谋杀罪arrested for, you know, homicide.“你的保释金定为25万美元”Your bond has been set at $250,000.他问我 那我该怎么做And he asked me, he said, Well, what should I do?我回答 我不知道 你有25万美元吗And I said, I dont know. Do you have $250,000?他很平静地看着我说 不在我身上And
28、 he just calmly looked at me and he goes, Well, not on me.这家伙竟然Who the hell is this guy给你这种回答to give you that type of an answer?这不是正常情况下该听到的回答Which is not the type of answer you would normally hear.监狱警官给我打了个电♥话♥I get a call from the desk sergeant at the jail.他说 科迪 德斯特这家伙He goes, Cody,
29、this Durst guy,他给纽约一个叫He made a phone call to somebody named德布拉的人打了电♥话♥Debrah in New York.告诉他们他在德克萨斯州的加尔维斯顿Told them he was in Galveston, Texas,因谋杀而被捕 他需要25万美元Under arrest for murder, and he needed $250,000.然后她说 没问题 明天早上钱就会到账了And she said, No problem, it will be there in the morning.然后
30、我就在想 这到底是怎么一回事And Im thinking, Whats going on here?你是罗伯特德斯特的妻子吗Are you the wife of Robert Durst?是的Yes.你们是什么时候结婚的When did you marry him?2000年12月December 2000.是2000年12月11号♥吗Would that have been December 11, 2000?-是的 -好- Yes. - OK.你是什么时候第一次听说德斯特先生When did you first hear that Mr. Durst在德克萨斯州的加尔维斯
31、顿租了一套公♥寓♥had rented an apartment in Galveston, Texas?额 我确定是在2001年10月9号♥之后才知道Um, I heard that he rented an apartment in Galveston, Texas他在德克萨斯州的加尔维斯顿租了一套公♥寓♥certainly after October 9, 2001.好吧 你为什么对这个日期记得那么清楚呢OK. And why are you so definite about that date?因为就是在那一天他打
32、电♥话♥给我Because that was the day he called me,在他被抓之后after he was arrested.而我之前从来没有听说过德州的什么加尔维斯顿And I never even heard of Galveston, Texas.当他打给你的时候 他是在哪里打给你的When he called you, where was he calling from?监狱里Jail.从他被捕到他被保释出来How long was it from the time that he was arrested隔了多长时间until he go
33、t out of jail on bail?-二十四小时 -好的- 24 hours. - OK.出了监狱之后 他去哪里了When he got out, where did he go?我在纽约 他在加尔维斯顿Im in New York. Hes in Galveston.他可能先去了保释代理人的办公室He probably went to the bail bondsmans office first.然后可能回家了And then he probably went home.我怎么会知道 我在那里吗Do I know? Was I there?我当时又没有和他在一起I wasnt th
34、ere.我在第二天早上大约七点半的时候回去工作Im back at work the next morning about 7:30.我到了我的办公室I get to my office.通常我手♥机♥上会有一两条信息Usually on my phone there may be one or two messages.我到了办公室 我拿了一杯咖啡I get to, I get my cup of coffee,坐下来 我的灯一直在闪I sit down, my lights blinking.21条未读信息21 messages.那时候我们才开始知道Thats
35、when the information about关于罗伯特德斯特到底是谁的信息who Robert Durst really was started coming into play.我们得到消息称在加尔维斯顿一个叫做鲍勃德斯特的人被抓了We get this tip that a Bob Durst has been arrested他杀害了他的in Galveston and hes murdered his,他的邻居还是什么人his neighbor or something.然后我们就好震惊 天呐And it was like, Holy shit!这个会是我们要找的鲍勃德斯特吗C
36、an this be our Bob Durst?莫里斯布莱克在加尔维斯顿被杀The fact that Morris Black had been murdered in Galveston已经不是什么我们这边was not something that would have garnered会关心的事情了any attention at our end.除非这件事情和罗伯特德斯特有关系It was only when they made the connection to Robert Durst.我们发现原来他来自于纽约You find out that he belongs to on
37、e of the richest其中一个最富有的家庭families in New York City.不过这还不算最奇怪的But thats not strange enough,同时这个人也被怀疑the guys also suspected in与他的妻子在纽约的失踪案有关系his wifes disappearance in New York.罗伯特德斯特第一次上头条是在Robert Durst first made headlines1982年他刊登了他妻子的失踪事件after he reported his wife missing in 1982.然而直到现在 这件案子都悬而未决
38、And to this day, the case remains unsolved.凯瑟琳德斯特的家里人从一开始就说The family of Kathleen Durst, from the beginning, had said他们坚信罗伯特德斯特是始作俑者they believed Robert Durst was responsible.但是他坚称自己是清白的He had always maintained his innocence.凯瑟琳的家里人告诉新闻第四频道Family sources tell News Channel 4罗伯特德斯特搬到了德州的加尔维斯顿Robert Du
39、rst relocated to Galveston, Texas,不过他们不知道他在那边要做什么but they were unsure what he was doing there.德斯特公♥司♥现在How many office buildings does拥有多少栋办公大楼呢the Durst Organization currently own?九栋Nine.你可以告诉我这些办公大楼都在哪里吗And can you tell me what those office buildings are?第三大道655号♥ 第三大道675号&hear
40、ts;655 Third Avenue, 675 Third Avenue,东四十二街205号♥ 美国大道733号♥205 East 42nd Street, 733 Avenue of the Americas,美国大道825号♥ 时代广场4号♥825 Avenue of the Americas, Four Times Square,美国大道1133号♥ 美国大道1155号♥1133 Avenue of the Americas, 1155 Avenue of the Americas,还有西四十七街1&h
41、earts;1♥4♥号♥and 1♥1♥4♥ West 47th Street.大多数被指控谋杀的被告Most defendants charged with murder都会出席他们的传讯好吗show up at their arraignment, OK?我想过他会去吗Did I expect him to be there?他肯定会去啦Of course I did.我想好好观察这个人I wanted to eyeball this guy.我想好好了解他I wanted to size him up.罗
42、伯特预计会在早上十点上庭Robert was due to be in court at 10:00 a.M.然而他没有出现 他决定潜逃And he was a no-show. He decided to run.在寻找罗伯特德斯特的过程中In the search for Robert Durst,一名律师叫他自首a lawyer is asking him to surrender.律师迈克尔肯尼迪向他呼吁Attorney Michael Kennedy made an appeal to him呼吁他向警方自首to turn himself in.罗伯特 如果你看到或者听到这个 请回家
43、吧Robert, if you see this or hear this, please come home.在纽约有着关心你的亲人You have loved ones who care about you here in New York.你的家人会坚定地 团结一致地在你身后支持你Your family is solidly, unifiedly behind you.信托基金里有足够的资金来支付你的合法辩护The Trust has the wherewithal to pay for your legal defense.媒体报道你雇了一名保镖The press reported t
44、hat you had hired a bodyguard来保护你自己以不受到罗伯特德斯特的伤害to protect yourself against Robert Durst.这是真的吗Is that true?-这是真的 是的 -反对- That is true, yes. - MAN: Objection.你之前是不是认为你的生命安全受到了罗伯特德斯特的威胁Did you believe your life was threatened by Robert Durst?在那个时候At that point in time.罗伯特的行为举止很离奇Roberts actions were b
45、izarre,尽管我并不确定and while I wasnt sure,但是我觉得 为了保护我的家人I felt that, to protect my family这个做法是合情合理的was a reasonable action to take.你是什么时候雇的保镖And when did you hire the, the bodyguard?额 罗伯特在德州弃保潜逃之后In, uh, after Robert jumped bail in Texas.所有人员都已经出动了All the wheels started turning.我们要怎么找到这个人How do we find t
46、his guy?各州各地的分局都已发布通缉令Everything from state and local agency notifications还有国际刑♥警♥组织也加入搜捕to notifications to Interpol.但没有人知道这个人有可能去了哪里Theres no telling where this guy could have gone.一个私♥家♥侦♥探♥告诉加尔维斯顿报社A private investigator told a Galveston newspaper德斯特过去一直
47、使用假名that Durst has used false names in the past.他伪装成一名女性He had disguised himself as a woman.他的别名 多萝西辛内尔 甚至出现在His alias, Dorothy Ciner, is even listed联邦调查局十大通缉犯的名单上on the FBIs 10 most wanted list.他曾经与多萝西辛内尔Dorothy Ciner was somebody he went to一起在斯卡斯达尔高中就读Scarsdale High School with.我们找到一个他以埃米利奥维尼奥尼为名开
48、的银行账号♥We found a bank account that he had set up as Emilio Vignoni.他在阿♥拉♥巴马州的莫比尔租了一辆车He had rented a car from a place in Mobile, Alabama,声称他是莫里斯布莱克saying he was Morris Black.我们都知道他用过远不止这些假名And we know there were probably more.他不是疯了 他简直就是恶魔Hes not crazy. Hes diabolical.当鲍勃没有出席他的审
49、讯When Bob didnt show up at his hearing我们意识到他逃跑了的时候and we realize hes on the run,我和其他人一样好奇他到底在哪I was as curious as anyone else about where he was.所以我打电♥话♥到每一个他曾经住过的地方And so, I was calling places where he had lived.当罗伯特德斯特回到When Robert A. Durst returned to韦斯切斯特郡的南塞伦时South Salem in Westch
50、ester County,一个邻居在特鲁斯代尔湖边的码头A neighbor noticed him seemingly lost in thought发现他 看起来神情恍惚On a dock at Lake Truesdale,在丛林遮蔽的石屋后面Behind the tree-shrouded stone cottage他曾经与他的妻子凯瑟琳一起待过的屋子he once shared with his wife Kathleen.那天是他的生日 也是他们的结婚纪念日It was his birthday and their wedding anniversary,尽管她十九年前就消失了Th
51、ough she had vanished 19 years earlier.州警♥察♥和韦斯切斯特地方检察官The State Police and the Westchester District Attorney已经找了他整整一年Had been seeking him for a year反复浏览他对于和他妻子相处的最后一晚的证词To go over his account of his last night with his wife.她消失的那一晚The night she vanished.德斯特在码头上的沉思突然停止了Mr. Dursts rever
52、ie on the dock当他看到一个邻居Suddenly ended when a neighbor在湖边散步strolled down to the lakefront.这个邻居 显然就是That neighbor, of course, was the woman搬进鲍勃曾经住过的房♥子里的女人that moved into the house that Bob had lived in,也是凯瑟琳神秘失踪的房♥子and that Kathie had disappeared from.天网恢恢 疏而不漏It was always piecing toget
53、her these shreds of information.尽管事态还很扑朔迷离 不过我们已经开始知道这个人是谁It was hazy, but it began to tell a story已经开始解开这个谜团about this guy who, of course, was an enigma.五十八岁的罗伯特德斯特58-year-old Robert Durst在德国汉诺威市的一个小镇里的was arrested here at Wegmans Grocery Store维格曼斯超♥市♥被抓in Hanover Township after原因是他试图
54、偷一个特大号♥三明治allegedly trying to steal a hoagie.我觉得在这个案子里I think we were kind of in the same boat as我们所掌握到的情况everybody else that had any knowledge不会比其他人多of this case whatsoever.他怎么可以这么傻呢How in the hell could he have been that stupid?他看起来很冷酷He just kind of got cold look.脸上毫无血色 他就这样一直盯着我All the co
55、lor ran out of his face, and he just stared at me,然后他说 在律师到场之前and he said, Im not saying another word我什么都不会说的until I speak to an attorney.警♥察♥搜遍了他租来的车Police searched his rental car outside.找到了两把上了膛的枪And found two loaded guns,一些大♥麻♥some marijuana,三万八千元现金 还有一张莫里斯布莱克的身份证$38,000 in cash, and an I.D.
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