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June2026
Mckunsey
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HowCEOscannavigatetheneweraoftrade
AI,geopoliticalrealignment,andshiftingcapitalflowsareredrawingtradecorridorsandreshapingcompetitiveadvantage—forcingleaderstorethinkwhereandhowtheygrow.
HowCEOscannavigatetheneweraoftrade2
Tarifftumult.Shiftinggeopoliticalalliances.AIacceleration.Structuralshiftsarereshaping
globaltrade.Onthisepisodeof
TheMcKinseyPodcast
,McKinseySeniorPartner
Shubham
Singhal
andMcKinseyPartner
JeongminSeong
speakwithGlobalEditorialDirectorLucia
Rahillyabouthowtoadapttothecurrentphaseofglobaltradereconfiguration—fromwheretomanufacturetosupplychaindecisions—andhowbesttoinvest.
Inthesecondhalfofthisepisode,McKinseySeniorPartner
KateSmaje
joinsLuciatoanswersomeaudiencequestionsfromarecent
McKinseyLivewebinar
,basedonthesecondeditionofthebook
Rewired
,abouthowtotransformyourorganizationintheageofdigitalandAI.
TheMcKinseyPodcastiscohostedbyLuciaRahillyandRobertaFusaro.
Thisepisodehasbeenadaptedfromour
McKinseyLivewebinarseries
.
Thefollowingtranscripthasbeeneditedforclarityandlength.
Thenewlogicofglobaltrade
LuciaRahilly:2025deliveredamassiveshocktotrade.WesawthehighestUStariffsin
generations,changinguptradedynamicsand,perhapsmostvisibly,pushingsomethinglike
$165billionintradeawayfromtheUS–Chinacorridor.Andnow,in2026,thedisruptionshave
continued,includingacuteinstability,let’ssay,intheStraitofHormuz,whichis,ofcourse,a
criticalchokepointformorethanafifthoftheworld’sseaborneoilandgastrade.Nevertheless,Iwassupersurprisedtolearnthattradecontinuedtogrowin2026,despitewhatlookedlikea
reallyturbulentyear.Shubham,talktous.WhatdidtheMGI[McKinseyGlobalInstitute]researchrevealaboutthestatusofglobaltrade?
ShubhamSinghal:Wehavetorememberthatcountriestradebecauseeverycountryneedssomethinganothercountryhas,evenifwechangeafewpolicies.Somepeoplesay,“Oh,it’sfragmenting.It’llregionalizeorlocalize.”Infact,tradeistravelingoverlongergeographic
distances.Itisn’tlocalizingorregionalizing.It’srewiringtowardshortergeopoliticaldistances—thatis,thealignmentbetweencountriesandtheirforeignpolicies.
Andweareseeingthisalignmenthappen,withmoregeopoliticallyalignedcountriestrading
morewithoneanother.Thebiggestexample,ofcourse,being,asyousaid,US–Chinadirect
trade.Also,somepeoplepaintwithonebroadbrushstrokewhentalkingabouttrade.ButatMGI,welookedatthreedifferentviews.
Oneiswhetherthetradeorcategoryisinacriticalarea.Wetalkaboutcriticalmineralsasoneofthose,orsemiconductors.Second,isitconcentratedproduction?Inotherwords,isthe
productionofthose,orthesourceofthose,concentratedinonearea?Andthenlastly,areyoureceivingthatfromgeostrategicallyunalignedcountries?
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IfyouweretotakeUSimportsandapplyallthreeofthosefactors,5percentofUSimportswouldfallintothecategoryofbeingverycritical,probablynational-securitysensitive,
concentrated,andcomingfromageostrategicallyunalignedcountry.
Sotherewiringismuchmoresurgicalthansaying100percentoftradehastoberewiredto,inthiscaseandforthosepurposes,5percent.Theworldisseekingbalance.JusttaketheUSandChina,forexample.TheUSprobablyconsumesfarmoreandproducesfarlesstodaythanit
usedto.
China,ontheotherhand,producesalot,whiledomesticconsumptionstillhasn’tquitecaughtup.Andinallofthediscussionsoverthelastyear,thefocuswasongoods.Butweshould
understandthattradeinservices,data,andintellectualproperty[IP]isalsoquitesignificant.Andweseethosecontinuingtogrowandreconfigureintermsofwheretheyhappen.
LuciaRahilly:Atahighlevel,couldyousaysomethingabouttheotherprimarychallengesandrisksleadersareconfrontinginthethroesofallthisgeopoliticalflux?
ShubhamSinghal:Weseetheinterplaywithdomesticenvironmental,labor,andimmigration
policies.Ononehand,there’sthedesiretosolvesomeoftheclimatechangeandotherissuesweface.Ontheotherhand,energysecuritymatters.Sohowdowethinkaboutthatas
balancingforces?Weseealotofimportandexportandcapitalcontrolsplayingout,particularlyinthoseconcentratedarenas.
We’veseenthesemiconductordebates.We’veseencurrencymovements.Howthoseare
managedclearlyaffectstrade.Now,withRussia’sinvasionofUkraineandtheconflictintheMiddleEast,thesecurityenvironmentfullyandcompletelyplaysarole.
Countriesareincreasinglyfocusedontheresilienceoftheirnationalsecurityanddefense
capabilities,whichisleadingtoalotofforeigninvestmentrestrictions,sanctions,embargoes,andthelike.YoualsoseethisplayingoutinAIandthedebateontechnologytransfer.
HowshouldyouthinkaboutIPdiffusion?
Theimportanceofcybersecurity
?Andthen,asyou
said,youseethosedynamicsimpactingchokepoints,includingeconomicandcriticalchoke
points.Butthere’salsoalotofmultilateralcooperation,andalliancescomeaboutaspartofthis.
Becauseasconflictshappen,thealliancesalsoshiftaround.Andwiththemshiftsthemovementnotjustofdefensetechnology,butalsooftradeandotherarenasofcooperationamongmajoreconomies.
Howshiftingtradecorridorsarereshapinggrowth
LuciaRahilly:Jeongmin,let’szerobackinontradespecifically.Walkusthroughtheforcesthataredoingthemost,inyourview,toreconfigurethetradelandscape.
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JeongminSeong:Threereallystandout:AI,China,andtheriseofconnectingeconomies.Let
metalkthroughtheseonebyone.Theoverallsizeof
AI-relatedtrade
isrelativelymoderate.Butitaccountedforaboutone-thirdofglobaltradegrowthin2025.AndthatgrowthwasevenmorepronouncedintheUnitedStates.
That’sbecausetheUSaccountedforroughlyhalfofglobalnewdatacenterconstructionlastyear.Andthistrendiscontinuinginto2026,creatingamassiverippleeffectglobally.For
example,manyKoreansarequitehappythesedaysbecausethestockmarketrosebymorethan70percent,largelydrivenbytwosemiconductorcompanies.
PeopleinTaiwanarealsohappybecauseitsGDPgrewataround14percentinquarterone,
again,drivenlargelybytheAI-relatedvaluechain.SoAIisthefirstbigfactor.ThesecondfactorisChina.ButinthenewChinastory,it’snotjustabout“MadeinChina”;it’salsoabout“China
inside.”ThatisbecauseChinaisbecomingthefactorytothefactories.Solastyear,despiteveryhightariffs,Chinaactuallyhadarecord-hightradesurplus.
Butifyoubreakitdown,China’sexportsoffinalconsumptiongoodsactuallydeclined.Butexportsofintermediategoods—whicharebasicallyinputsintoadditionalproduction
processes—grewbyaround9percent.
AndclosetohalfofChina’stradeiswithso-calledGlobalSoutheconomies,oremerging
economies.Chinaisenablingtheseeconomiestobecomethefactoriesoftheworld.Andthistrendis,again,continuinginto2026.
Thethirdfactoristheriseoftheconnectingeconomies,mostnotablyASEAN[theAssociationofSoutheastAsianNations]economies.Theyarebasicallyplayingtheroleofmatchmakerfor
theglobalsupplychain,keepingitfrombreakingup.In2025,ASEANexportsgrewbyabout14percent.Importsalsogrewbyabout11percent.Butwhatwasinterestingwaswherethisgrowthwascomingfrom.
Ontheexportside,theUnitedStatescontributedaboutone-thirdofexportgrowth.Onthe
importside,Chinarepresentedabouthalfoftotalimportgrowth.Sothebigquestionfortheseconnectingeconomiesishowfarthiscango,andwhethertheycanaddmeaningfullocalvalue.
Businessleaderswillneedtoconstantlyreassesshowtradecorridorsareshiftingandrepositiontheirglobalfootprintaccordingly.
LuciaRahilly:There’saviewthatChina’sexportgrowth,whichyoujustbrokedown,isdrivenlargelybypricecuts.What’sreallygoingonthere?
JeongminSeong:There’ssometruthtothatnarrative.It’softensaidthatChina’sdomesticcompetitionisveryfierce,squeezingmarginsandpushingcompaniestoexportmore
aggressively.Butthatisonlypartofthestory.
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Ifyoulookatthedata,pricesforfinalconsumptiongoodshavefallenbyabout8percent.Butifyoulookupstreamatintermediateandcapitalgoods,priceonaveragestayedrelatively
stable—andinsomecasesevenincreasedfurther.Sotheansweristhatit’spartlytrue,partlynottrue.
LuciaRahilly:Let’smoveontoforeigndirectinvestment[FDI].Jeongmin,howshouldleadersbereadingtheFDIsignalsrightnow?Andiscapitalflowinginwaysthatreinforcethesetradeshifts,orcutagainstthem?
JeongminSeong:Idon’tmakepredictions,becausepredictionswouldbewrong.ButIcanoffersomehelpfulleadingindicatorstomonitor.
Inmyview,thatisFDI.Moneymovesfasterthanphysicalnetworks.We
analyzedabout
200,000FDIannouncements
andfoundthatthereconfigurationalongthegeopoliticallineswespokeaboutishappeningfasterthantrade.
Infact,it’sgrowingtwiceasfastastrade.Therearetwomaindriversbehindthis.Oneissectorreconfiguration.About75percentofFDIisnowgoingintowhatwecall“future-shaping
sectors”—forexample,AIinfrastructure,advancedmanufacturing,andtheresourcesthatpowerthem.
Thesecondisgeographicreconfiguration.TheUSbecameamagnetforFDI.Ontheotherhand,FDIintoChinadeclinedbyabouttwo-thirds.However,Chinastillmaintainsitslevelofoutboundinvestmentandthereforeremainsamajoroutboundinvestor.Theimplicationforbusiness
leadersisclear:FDIcanbeaverycredible,forward-lookingindicator.Therefore,useitto
anticipatepotentialchangesearlyandinformdecisionsonmanufacturingfootprintsandsupplychains.
Adaptabilityisacompetitiveadvantage
LuciaRahilly:That’sanicesegueintoimplicationsforreadersandhowtheycanusethis
information.Itcanfeelchallengingtopredicthowthestructuralshiftswillplayoutinthenearandlongterm.Practicallyspeaking,whatcounselwouldyouofferexecutiveshere?Shubham,thisone’sforyou.
ShubhamSinghal:WejustdidaroundofCEOinterviewsoverthelastfewmonthsandreallysoughttounderstandthecharacteristicsofcompaniesnavigatingthis.
Fivethingsemerged.Thefirstwasonmanagingtheimageofdisruptiontoearnings.Whatwefoundinterestingabouttheleadingcompanieswasthattheywentbeyondthedefensive,
asking,“HowdoIactuallydrivetheproductivity,givenInowhavethissignal?Ihavetolookintoit.WhatelsecanIquestionandimprove?”
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Theywentonestepfurtherandasked,“IfIimprovemyeconomics,therewillbeothersintheindustrywhowon’tkeeppace.Couldthosecompaniesbecomeavailabletobeacquired,orcouldwetakeshareawayfromthem?”
Thesecondexamplewasthatthesefolkswerethinkingaboutcapitaldeployment.Theyasked
themselves,“Whereacrossthedifferentscenarioswouldwebemakingafairlygoodbet?Whereisthebetnotclearintermsofifthesescenarioscomeoutagainstus?”
Now,theoperationspointisobvious.Everyone’sthoughtaboutthisandabouthowtomanageit.Globaloperationsaremoreresilient.I’llgiveyouanexample.WhentheUSandCanadagotintothattitfortatontariffs,Canadaputtariffsonchocolates.
OneglobalcompanystartedshippingchocolatesfromEuropetoCanadaandtooktheirUSproductionandshippeditelsewhere.That’saverysimple,triteexample.Butwe’veseenthisacrossindustries,withfolkssaying,“DoIhaveaglobalfootprint?Ihaveglobalmarkets,
thereforeIhaveglobalproduction.”
Thisideaofadaptabilityofyourproductionnetwork—andtheagilitywithinit—hasbecomeveryimportant.Butglobalproductionhasbeenmuchmoreresilient.Growthistheotherone.
Jeongmintalkedaboutthesheershiftsweareseeingingrowthratesofdifferenttradecorridors.
Whenwesaytradecorridors,notonlydowemeanthetradebetweentwocountries,butalsotradeatthecategorylevel.Aligningwiththosegrowingcorridorsliterallyputsyouinthat
double-digitgrowth,whichisveryimportant.Ofcourse,ontheflipside,youcouldbeinthingsthataredecliningquitesignificantlyaswell.
Andthentherearesectors.Defenseisagrowingsector—weknowthat.Someofthesectors
thatJeongmintalkedaboutareforwardleaning,likeadvancedmanufacturing,energy,and
infrastructure.We’reseeingfolksleanintoalltheservicesthatgointothatandalignthemselveswiththosegrowthsectors.
Thefinalpointisthatthefasteryourorganizationcanmove,thebetteroffyouare.Enter
markets,exitmarkets,redeploycapital,moveproduction,movedifferentmarkets,andmove
people.Whenacrisiserupts,beabletorespondquickly.Whenanopportunityopensup,beabletogoafteritquickly.Thisideaofspeedwithinanorganizationisbecomingarealbasisfor
competitiveadvantageinthiseraofvolatility.
LuciaRahilly:Shubham,yougavethechocolateexample.Couldyougiveonemoreexampleofacompanythathasrespondedproactivelytothesechallenges?
ShubhamSinghal:Ithinkthereareanumberofcompaniesthataredoingagoodjob.Lastyear,asLiberationDayhappened,aglobalconsumercompanyhadthechallengeofeveryonelookingattheirsituationandsaying,“Thisisaprettymeaningfulhittoourearnings.Howshouldwe
HowCEOscannavigatetheneweraoftrade7
thinkaboutit?”Theysteppedbackandsaid,“Weneedtoplanaroundthis.Weneedto
understandthescenarios.Whateventsactuallychangemydecision?HowdoIthinkaboutthatdecisionatthatpointintime?Whenthathappens,whatplansdoIhaveinplacetomove?”
Theyrewiredtheirstrategicplanningtobemuchmoreeventandscenariobased,andmuchmoreadaptable.
LuciaRahilly:ShubhamandJeongmin,thankyouforjoiningustoday.
KateSmajeanswersquestionsyousubmittedaboutAIanddigitaltransformation
LuciaRahilly:KateSmaje,congratulationsagainonthesecondeditionofRewired,our
McKinseyplaybookforwinningwithtechnologyandAI.Wefeaturedyouandoneofyour
coauthors,RobLevin,onarecentepisodeofTheMcKinseyPodcast,andwereceiveda
veritabledelugeofquestionsasaresult—welloverathousandaudiencequestions—whichwasamazing.
KateSmaje:Awesome.
LuciaRahilly:It’sahugetestamenttothesituation:executivesarelookingforcounselasthey
navigatethisincrediblyfast-changingAIeraandtrytorealizemoremeaningfulROI.Obviously,wecan’ttackleathousandquestionshere,butmanyofthesequestionsconvergearoundsimilarthemes,sowedistilledseveralofthemintoaselectionthatwe’llcoverhere.
KateSmaje:Wonderful.
LuciaRahilly:AIisevolvingandlearningfasterthanmanyofus.HowshouldleadersbethinkingaboutorganizingaroundwhatAIiscapableofnow,versuswhatitmightbecapableofinthe
future?Howcanwemanagethatoldproblemofbuildingandflyingtheplaneatthesametime?
KateSmaje:TheadviceIwouldgiveisthatyou’vegottobeinitforagenuinelydynamic,
constantlearningcycle.Youmustaskyourself,“HowcanIbethefastestlearnerhere?”IthinkthatiskeytowinninginAI.
Howdoyoumakethatnotjustanindividualeffort,butacollectiveeffort?Whataretheinsightsanddiversethinkingthatwe’regoingtogetfromoutside,andhowarewegoingtoservethatuptopeoplewithouthavingtowaitforaformaltrainingcourseortoactuallyembracetheviral
peer-to-peerelementsofthat?
We’vegottorelearnhowwelearn.ButIcomebacktothispointaboutunlearningaswell,
becauseIthinkit’snottalkedaboutenoughinthisspace.Withagenticinparticular,oneofthesuperpowersofexecutivesrightnowis,“CanIalmostreleasetheparadigms,theorthodoxiesof
HowCEOscannavigatetheneweraoftrade8
howIunderstandmybusinessandask,‘Whatif?Whatifthatreallyweredifferent?Whatifthatend-to-endprocesshadhalfthestepsithastoday?WhatifagenticallowedmetobreakwhatIthoughtwasfairmarketshareanddosomethingreallyoutsizeorseismic,intermsofthelevelofchange?’”That’swhatallowsyoutoreimagine.
LuciaRahilly:ThatisaniceseguetoaquestionwegotfromanumberoffolkswhowereeitherCIOsorCIOequivalentsintheirorganization.What’ssomethingthatCIOsshouldconsiderwhenthey’reconfrontedwithCEOswhoareerringonthesideofcaution,whomaybearelesspronetoadoptthis“whatif”unlearningattitudeandwhowanttotaketheirtimevis-à-visAI
transformation?
KateSmaje:Insomeways,youcouldarguethatspeedwithouttrustwilldestroyvalue,right?
Additionally,trustwithoutspeeddestroysrelevance.Inalltheresearchwe’vedoneacross
hundredsoftransformations,wehavenotfoundasingularhighlysuccessfultransformationthatdidnothavenotonlythebuy-in,butalsothereal,genuine,hands-onleadershipoftheCEO.
Theremaybelotsofbusinessleadersinanorganization,butifyou’vegotareluctantCEO,AIadoptionisgoingtobereallytough.Inthatsituation,Ithinkitbecomesimportanttohelpthemunderstandwhyandhowthisisgoingtohelpdrivebusinessvalue.
ThesecondthingIwouldsayisthat,forthebroaderkindofleadershipcohorts,youmustspeaktheirlanguage,whichis,“Howisthisgoingtodrivemybusinessperformance?”Youneedtoaskyourselveswhetherthatmeansgettingtoastructurallydifferentunitcost,gettingtooutsize
marketshareorrevenuesharegains,drivingEBITDAuplift,ormaybeevenimproving
operationaloutcomes.Speakingtheirlanguageof,“ThisiswhatIwanttohelpyouto
accomplish.We’regoingtousetechnologytodothat,butreallyit’saboutbusinesschange.”
LuciaRahilly:Fromyourpointofview,areweoverestimatingAI’sabilitytodriveEBITDAincertainsectors?
KateSmaje:Thereareenoughproofpointsnowtosaythemoneyisabsolutelythere.In
the
latesteditionofthebook
,welookedatacohortofthe20mosteconomicallysuccessful
companiesusingAI,andtheaverageEBITDAupliftinthatgroup—notthetopperformer,buttheaverage—was20percentfromtheirAIinitiatives.
Andimportantly,foreverydollartheyputin,intermsofinvestmentinAI,they’regettingback,onaverage,$3inEBITDA.Butformany,thedissonanceisstilltoogreatbetweenthepromiseofAIandtherealityofhowfarthathasdrivenreal,true,tangiblebottom-lineperformance.
It’slessofanindustry-specificproblem.It’smuchmoretheheartofyourquestion:“AreweoverestimatingAI’sabilitytodrivethis?”Possibly.Becauseitisn’tthetechnology.AI
transformationis,atitsheart,apeopletransformationtogettodifferentialoutcomes.
LuciaRahilly:WhatarethetopthreeKPIsformeasuringtheimpactofAIinthecurrentmomentthatleadersshouldbelookingatmoreclosely?
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