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1、10.25record companies. Correspodent:What'rea111y at stake for the movieVideo ScriptPirates of the InternetIt ' no secret that online piracy has decimated the music industry as millions of people stopped buying CDs and started stealing their favorite songs by downloading them from the interne

2、t. Now the hign-tech thieves are coming after Hollywood. Illegal downloading of full-length feature films is a relatively new phenomenon, but it' s becoming easier and easto do. The people running America ' movie studios know that if they don' do something-and fast-they could be in the s

3、ame boat as the industry with all this privacy?” Chernin: "Well,I think, you know,ultimately, our absolute features.” Peter ChernimturysFoiXhone of the biggest studios in Hollywood. He knows the pirates of the Internet are gaining on him. Correspont: "Doyou know how many movies are being d

4、ownloaded today, in one day, in the United State?' Chernin: " Ithink it ' probably in the hundreds of thousands, if not millions. "Correspondent: "Andit ' s ongoing to grow. Chernin: "It ' s only going to grow. Somebody can put a perfect digital copy up on the int

5、ernet. A perfect digital copy, all right. And with the click of mouse, send out a million copies all over the world, in aninstant. ” 5And it 'as free. If that takes hold, kiss Hollywood goodbye. Cherninrecently organized a “ summit ”between studio moguls and some high school and college kids-the

6、 people most likely to be downloading.Chernin: “ And we said, Let s come up with a challenge. Let s gfive movies, and see if they can find them online. And we all sat aroand picked five movies, four of which hadn t been released yet. And thenwe came back half an hour later. They had found all five m

7、ovies that we gave them. ” Correspondent: “ Eventhe ones that hadn et ven been released yet? ” Chernin: “ Eventhe ones that hadn etven been released yet. ” Correspondent: “ Didthese kids have any sense that they werestealing? ” Chernin:"You know it ' sit ' s a weird dichotomy. I think t

8、hknow it stsealing, and I don tthink they think it wsrong. I think they have an attitude of, It s here. ” The Internet copy of last year starring Mel Gibson, was stolen even before director M. Night Shyamalancould organize the premiere. Correspondent:“ The movie was about to breleased. When did the

9、first bootleg copy appear?”6Shyamalan: “ Twoweeks before it or three weeks before it. Before the Internet age, when somebody bootlegged a movie, the only outlet theyHey, -w-eit haves nSoigt nesven outhad was to see it to those vendors on Times Square, where they had the boxes set up outside and they

10、 say, yet. And you walk by and you know it s illegal. But now, because itdigital age, you can see, like, a clean copy. It s no longer the kind of th sleazy guy in Times Square with the box. It ' jsst, oh, it ' 08n thisbeautiful site, and I have to go,' Click. ' " Correspondent:&

11、quot; Homovies get on the Internet? How did thathappen?” Chernin: "Through an absolute act of theft. Someone steals a print from the editor 'rosom;someone steals a print from the person; the composer who' sdoing the music absolute physical theft, steals a print, makes a digital copy, an

12、d uploads it." Correspondent:"And there you go. " Digital copies like thisone of The Matrix Reloaded have also been bootlegged from DVDs sent to reviewers or ad agencies, or circulated among companies that do special effects, or subtitles. Chernin: "Thoother way that pre-released

13、movies end up (stolen) is that people go tothere are lots of screeningthat happen in this industry People go to those screenings with a camcorder, with a digital camcorder, sit in the back, turn the camcorder_ _ A onCorrespondent: "And record it. ” This is one of those recorded-off-the-screen c

14、opies of Disney ' s Pirates of the Caribbean. Not great quality, but not awful either. And while it used to take forever to download a movie, anyone with a high-speed Internet connection can now have a full-length film in an hour or two.Saaf: "Wellthis is just one of many websites where bas

15、ically people, hackers if you will, announce their piracy releases. Randy Saaf runs acompany called Media Defender that helps movie studios combat onlinepiracy. Correspondent:" Look at this, all these new movies that I haveneven seen yet, all here. " Saaf: " Yep. " Correspondent:

16、" Secondthat just came out. Sometimes I feel like I ' mhe only person in this country who has never downloaded anything. But maybe there is a few others of us out there. So I' m going to ask you to show us Kazaa, thatthe biggest downloading site, right? Saaf: " Right.This is the Ka

17、zaa media desktop. Kazaa is the largest peer-to-peer network. 'It ' called peer-to-peer because computer users are sharing files 8with each other, with no middleman. All Kazaa does is provide the software to make that sharing possible. When we went online with Randy Saaf, nearly four million

18、 other Kazaa users were there with us, sharing every kind of digital file. Saaf:"Audio, documents, images, software, andvideo. If you wanted a movie, you would click on the video section, and then you would type in a search phrase. And basically what this is doing now, it is asking the people o

19、n the peer-to-peer network, 'Whohas Finding Memo ?"Within seconds, 191 computers sent an answer: "We have it. ” This is Finding Memo, crisp picture and sound, downloaded free from Kazaa a month before its release for video rental or sale. If you don' t want to watch it on a little

20、computer screen, you don' t havthe newest computers, you can just“ burn ” it onto a DVD and watch it onyour big-screen TV. And that 'asdagger pointed right at the heart of Hollywood. Chernin:" Where movies make the bulk of their money is onDVD and home videos. 50 percent of the revenues

21、 for any movie comeout of home video " Correspondent:"15 percent? ” Chernin:“50so that if piracy occurs and it wipes out your home video profits or ultimately your television profits, you are out9of business. No movies will get made. ” Even if movies did get made, Night Shyamalan says that

22、 wouldn ' t be any good, because profits would be negligible, so budgets would shrink dramatically. Shyamalan: "And slowly it will degrade what' possible in that art form. " Rosso:Technology always wins. Always. You can' sthut it down. ” Wayne Rosso is Hollywood ' s enemy.

23、They call him a pirate, but officially he the president of Grokster, another peer-to-peer network that works just like Kazaa. Correspondent: "Ok,I have downloaded your software. ” Rosso: " Right. " Correspondent:" Ok, did I pay to do that? ” Rossit ' s free. " Correspond

24、ent:" So who pays you? How do you make money?Rosso: " We re like raWe are advertising-supported. Correspondent:“And how many people use Grokster? ?Rosso:"Ten million. ”Correspondent: "Tenmillion people have used it. Rosso: "Amonth. ” Correspondent “Fverymonth, ten million pe

25、ople? ”Rosso: "Lhnuh, uh-huh And growing10Correspondent: Use it to download music, movies, software, video games what else? "Rosso: "will assume. See, we have no way of knowing what people are downloading. ” Correspondenst a fig "That' s leaf. You are facilitating, allowing,

26、helping people steal" Rosso: "We have no idea what the content is, and whatever it is -Correspondent:“ Wellyou may not know the specifics, but you know that' s what yoursite 'Rosso: "Andwe can' stop it. We have no control over it.” Correspondent:" But you are there fo

27、r that purpose, that is why you exist,of course it is. " Rosso: "No, no, no, no, no, no. " Correspondent: on, this is the fig leaf part." Rosso: " No, no, no, no, no. " Shyis totally conformable with putting on his site a stolen piece of material.Am I wrong in that? If

28、my movie was bootlegged, he' (be totally comfortable putting it on his site? ?Correspondent: "Because have nothing to do with it. "Shyamalan: "Yeahght. Correspondent: “Because just provided the software. 6hyamalan: "Yeaight. So, immediately, how can you ever have a 11 convers

29、ation with him? Becausehe' saken a stolen material and he is totally fine with passing it around in his house. All these, all these are 川egal activities. So, I' m not, it ' s just my house, I ' m not doinwrong. " But it is Rossoho has the law on his side. A federal judge hasrule

30、d that Grokster and other networks are not liable for what their downloaders are doing. Rosso: "Sowe are completely legal, and unfortunately this is something the entertainment industry refuses to accept. They seem to think the judge ' s decision wasuih attypo.” The studios are appealing th

31、at court ruling. And they may follow the music industry and begin to sue individuals who download movies. And they are fighting the pirates in other ways, with ads about people whose jobs are at risk becauseof the piracy-people like the carpentersand painters who work on film sets. At the same time,

32、 Hollywood is trying to keep copies of movies from leaking in the first place. Chernin: " You w川 very seldom go to an early screening of a movie right now where, probably you don ' t notice until you pay attention, someone' s not in 廿front of that auditorium with infrared binoculars loo

33、king for somebody with a camcorder. ”12And once a movie is released, or copies do begin to leak, the studios hire people like Randy Saaf to hack the hackersSaaf: "What we' re just trying to do is make the actual pirated content difficult to find. And the way we do that is by, you know, serv

34、ing up fake files. It“' called “spoofing. ” Saaf and his employees spend their days on Kazaa and Grokster, offering up thousands of files that 100k like copies of new movies, but aren ' t. Correspondent: "Sof I had clicked on any number of those FindingNemo offerings, I could have click

35、ed on one of yours, or somebody likeyou. And what would I have found after my hour and a half of downloading? ” Saaf: "it might just be a blank screen or something. You know, typically speaking, what we push out is just not the real content. Correspondent:" Whaa yotrying to do is make this

36、 so impossible, soinfuriating that people will just throw up their hands and say it 'just easier for me to go rent this thing, buy the DVD or whatever, it 'just easier. Saaf: "Right. Correspondent: "That yosjr goal. 'Saaf:“Right. ” 13Correspondent: " Doeshat work? Is that

37、a good idea? 'Rosso: " No.Itdoesn ' wtork. I mean I don' blame them but it doesn ' wtork because what happens is that the community cleanses itself of the spoofs. He means that downloaders quickly spread the word online about how to tell the fake movie files from the real thing.

38、 Correspondent:" It ' s likrace件备竞赛),isn ' t it? " Chernin:"That' s exactly what it ' s like. Ian arms race. There will be, you know, they' re gonrhegdt a step aWe regonna try and get that step back. 'Rosso: " But ' tell you one thing: I ' bet on t

39、he hackers. Correspondent: "Thatthey will break whatever 'Rosso: "Thetudios come up with. Correspondent: "The companies throw at them. ”Hollywood knows that downloading off the Internet is the way millionsof consumers want . to . get. theirentertainment-and that isn' t going a

40、way.Chernin: "Thqenerally accepted estimate is that more. that. 60. million.Americans . have . . downloaded_ software .onto.their一computers. ” Correspondent:"60 million. ”14Chernin:"At 60 million Americans, that' s a mainstream product. Thatnot a bunch of college kids or, you know

41、, a bunch of computer geeks.That ' s America. " So, instead of trying to stop it enttheys tudios . are looking for ways to embrace it, but get paid too. Wayne Rosso says the best way is to negotiate some kinds of licensing deal with him. Rosso: the movie industry acts now and starts explori

42、ng alternatives and solutions with guys like me, hopefully they won' have a problem.” Correspondent: "Whatf they try to buy you?”Rosso: "I 'sell it in al heartbeat. Correspondent: "Youwould sell, Grokster would sell to a movie studio? Rosso: "Surecall me."The idea of making deals with what. . Peter. .Chernin . calls:abunch.of. crooks 二 doesn' appeal to Hollywood. Instead, Fox and other studios have just launched their own site, Movielink, where consumers can download a film for a modest fee, between . three . and . five . dollars Chernin:

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