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A: So, anyway theres something I havent been able to get to, that Ive worked on for so long, and I would really appreciate be able to talk with you about that, because I see that you have freedom, and I would really love to have freedom.BK: So you dont understand why someone would want to be with you?A: Yeah, exactly. I never have. And I do I can see clearly that all these loving people in the room, I mean its like wow and so I love, I just love, this, but I still have that problem.BK: So I would work with I need to know why they want to be with me first.A: Em hm. Well excuse me, work with?BK: I need to know why they want to be with me.A: Em hm.BK: Do you realize how busy that would keep you?(people laugh)A: Yeah .BK: That makes for a very busy mind so you need to know why we want to be with you, is that true?A: (Sigh)BK: And remember this is not a test, A: Yeah, right, thank you.BK: This is about allowing whatever arises to arise, and who knows what it is. The answer could be yes, the answer could be no, but, dont plan the answer.A: Right. Yeah BK: So you need to know why we want to be with you, is that true?A: I need . I feel (interrupted by BK)BK: you know it has to be a yes or no, or you are going to the old way A: No, no. Yes, no. (laughing) I dont want to go over it again BK: So Im hearing you dont know A: Excuse me, I dont think I do need to know, do I? I mean, its with me within me BK: Okay, so the answer is no. So what happens to you when you think the thought, that I need to know why they want to be with me?A: The thought that comes right now is, I would really like to be free within myself, I would like, to just love me.BK: Okay, that is so not the answer. That is so unrelated to the question I just asked. So close your eyes what happens to your life in the moment, when someone says, I really like you? I really care about you, I want to be with you, I want to go to the movies whatever it is. Everyone just thinks youre so wonderful who would you be without the thought that I need to know why they want to be with me.A: I just enjoy the moment, and enjoy the love we feel for each other.BK: Now, how do you react when you thought I need to know that why they want to be with me?A: I feel sad, like, why would they want to be with me? I feel yeah, I guess BK: Yeah, so thats what youre experiencing the difference between what a life feels like and a truth feels like? Wow, I hear from you that you say you dont need to know, and theres a lot of comfort in that.A: Yeah BK: cause thats the truer for you and youve heard the truth that set you free?A: Yeah BK: But thats not the truth. So how do you react when you thought I need to know why they want to be with me?A: Yeah.BK: Its stressful.A: Yeah, it is.BK: cause youre cause whats truth with you is you dont need to know. I hear from you.A: Yeah.BK: Okay, so I need to know why they want to be with me? Turn it around?A: Right, I need to be with me why I want to be with me, ah .BK: You need to know why you want to be with you now tell me what are the things with so we did an example here of these turn-arounds, sometimes they are really available, so what is one of the things give me the example of what you one of these things that you just love about you.A: Ah I love my children BK: Oh isnt that a gift?A: Yeah its a big gift.BK: Yeah, love is a gift.A: Yeah, it is a gift.BK: And what were doing here is allowing love to live. So, can you find another example what you love about you?A: Yeah. I love I love teaching children to read. I do love that.BK: What else do you love about you?A: I love my friendships. I love the people. For one thing I love, your freedom, and I love your energy.BK: Thats one of the things you love about you.A: What is that?BK: That you love about your freedom and energy.A: I do.BK: You love that about you. Youre the one seeing it. Thats a huge capacity. You know, it shows you a lot about what you love you love loving.A: Thats true.BK: You love freedom.A: I love freedom and I love loving.BK: Okay, so you dont understand why people want to be with you, is that true?A: Im getting a little closer BK: Yeah you know, I love to be around people who love their children, I love to be around people who love to read to children, I love to be around people who love freedom, I love to be around people who love, the big love. I love to be around people like you. All the things you love about you, its possible that thats what we love about you.A: Thank you. This is so old, and this is like its going to take a while I think to really get in, and BK: just feel the way you hand did that do you love it? I mean, you didnt tell it to do that, I mean, thats amazing, its remarkable .A: Yeah BK: You dont have to do anything and all that great do you hear your voice? How soft it is? Do you hear your voice?A: Thank you Katie.BK: Did you hear it just then?A: I did, cause you BK:

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